2013 RULES: GM Accountability

[tino38]

To Shaggs point since he is in a difficult division and has built up a good team in there as well, perhaps there could be a committee set up to not eliminate a guy if he puts together a solid team and is active but just has a brutal schedule. A possible example would be to set up a committee of the top 11 most senior GMs and they can vote? I don't know, I can see where Shagg comes from but at same time accountability would sure force teams to be a bit more responsible.

[Strategist]

I thought I had a decent team this year and still only won 6 games. My division was loaded and I had to fight to get my wins. 10 wins might not seem difficult but sometimes and in certain situations it can be a fight. I just don't like it!

It is 10 wins in 3 years. Not 10 wins in 1 season. You would only have to win 4 games in the next 2 years. That is difficult?

[Shagg]

I thought I had a decent team this year and still only won 6 games. My division was loaded and I had to fight to get my wins. 10 wins might not seem difficult but sometimes and in certain situations it can be a fight. I just don't like it!

It is 10 wins in 3 years. Not 10 wins in 1 season. You would only have to win 4 games in the next 2 years. That is difficult?

it could be I've seen alot of the teams go 2-14 or 1-15 more than 2 seasons myself included.

[Strategist]

To me you have to try to do that bad 3 seasons in a row but that is just my opinion.

Is there anyone that can say right now for a fact they haven't gotten 10 wins in a 3 year period?

[Ben C.]

To me you have to try to do that bad 3 seasons in a row but that is just my opinion.

Is there anyone that can say right now for a fact they haven't gotten 10 wins in a 3 year period?

Shagg's Detroit only had 5 wins from 2007-2009. He went 2-14 in 2007, 1-15 in 2008, and 2-14 in 2009.

Kansas City only had 7 wins from 2007-2009: 3-13 in 2007, 2-13-1 in 2008, 2-14 in 2009. I'm not sure when lucky took over, though.

Paulco's first 3 seasons with Jacksonville only saw 7 wins: 3-13 in 2008, 0-16 in 2009, 4-12 in 2010.

More recently, TylerW's Giants are in serious danger of not reaching 10 wins over his first 3 seasons. The team has gone 0-16 the last 2 years.

However, I do believe that having this rule will make the league more competitive. I first mentioned this rule after the 2010 season, and it doesn't seem like a coincidence that even just the thought of it has improved Detroit, Kansas City, and Jacksonville:

Detroit was 12-4 in 2011, 6-10 in 2012.
Kansas City was 5-11 in 2011, 5-11 in 2012.
Jacksonville was 5-11 in 2011, 9-7 in 2012.

I think they've all worked harder at making sure a competitive team is on the "field."

[sportznut]

I don't understand, Oynx, you're one the best GM's in this game because you're active; a smart football guy; and you take care of your team. Why would you want to protect those GM's that consistently ignore their teams and consistently tank their seasons?

We're only talking about AFFL and holding just AFFL to a higher standard.

Onyx and Jared are two GMs who have already tanked previous seasons, and would come under fire with these rules in place (potentially).
I think both are great GMs, but it brings down the entire league.

In most leagues there are multiple teams "battling" for that #1 overall pick by losing every single game, when in reality everyone should have some sort of incentive to WIN, game or not.

Its not good for the entire league to continually allow this to happen. Idk if 10 wins is the right answer, but something should be done to keep this from continuing.

First of all I have never TANKED a season away plain and simple. Did i have alot of FA contracts come up that I could not keep yes, but to say I was tanking to get a better pick is pretty short sited when i didn't even have my own first round pick that year...this has nothing to do with me period.

This has to do with a fun game and I feel no way should a person who is being active all the time have his team taken away from him.

So, you want me (and everyone else) believe that a GM with your credentials lost all their games in a season while trying to win?

You're right, this isn't about you, but I brought it up as an example. We're going to agree to disagree though.

[sportznut]

To expand on this a bit, with the concern by many of teams purposely trying to lose games, has anyone given any thought to a lottery system for the 5 worst teams in the league? 10 teams? Non playoff teams?

Just a thought. I think I'd personally go with 5 worst simply b/c those teams should get a top 5 pick, but not necessarily the #1 overall.

[Strategist]

Hey ben thanks for the research. So several havent done it... Well that makes me wonder like you said would they have tried harder to win if they would have been in danger of losing their team. Personally I just cant bring myself not to try and win. I like my .700 win % too much. Lol. So if people would just always try to win as many games as possible then we wouldnt have any problems. Do I think it should be a hard fast rule? No I think it should be looked at some hasnt reached 10 wins and see how it happened.

[Onyxgem]

To expand on this a bit, with the concern by many of teams purposely trying to lose games, has anyone given any thought to a lottery system for the 5 worst teams in the league? 10 teams? Non playoff teams?

Just a thought. I think I'd personally go with 5 worst simply b/c those teams should get a top 5 pick, but not necessarily the #1 overall.

Not if we are trying to mimic real life we can't put this in unless the NFL does IMHO.

[sportznut]

To expand on this a bit, with the concern by many of teams purposely trying to lose games, has anyone given any thought to a lottery system for the 5 worst teams in the league? 10 teams? Non playoff teams?

Just a thought. I think I'd personally go with 5 worst simply b/c those teams should get a top 5 pick, but not necessarily the #1 overall.

Not if we are trying to mimic real life we can't put this in unless the NFL does IMHO.

I only put it in there b/c in the NFL we don't see teams go winless every year. Sometimes in these leagues there are even multiple winless teams in a given year.

Idk if its something people would like or not.