Off-Season Rules Discussion - Open Mike

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I like the top 15 and I do like throwing out the top 2 and bottom 2 just because sometimes we got some stupid contract out there and then people restructure them to make them even worse
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VinceO wrote:I think it would be a huge mistake to throw out the top value. In an actual, negotiation-based world, that's the single most relevant data point. LTC's aren't supposed to be bargains - they are simply supposed to be a way to avoid some risk (for both parties).

I disagree. Anyone over a 90 makes 75% of the franchise tag regardless of who signed what deals. The top paid player should be cut out because APs 12 mil base salary isn't a starting point for any running under 90. Same with many other positions.
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/ ... t-id=67123

Couple other thoughts after seeing some of this for the first time:

- I would lean towards being in favor of more LTCs/restructures, but not a huge deal.
- We have the option to backload contracts, how about ability to frontload? I was reading an article that DAL plans to lockup Martin with a front loaded extension to benefit from their QB and RB being under team friendly contracts.
- Still feel lifting the restriction on the number of bids in FA makes sense given the sophistication of the tool/site and the league structure (roster limits, cap, etc), but seems I'm very much in the minority on that.
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Knights Knight posted about eliminated the 75-man cut down, but they also approved allowing a second player to return from IR.
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Fish wrote:https://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/ ... t-id=67123

Couple other thoughts after seeing some of this for the first time:

- I would lean towards being in favor of more LTCs/restructures, but not a huge deal.
- We have the option to backload contracts, how about ability to frontload? I was reading an article that DAL plans to lockup Martin with a front loaded extension to benefit from their QB and RB being under team friendly contracts.
- Still feel lifting the restriction on the number of bids in FA makes sense given the sophistication of the tool/site and the league structure (roster limits, cap, etc), but seems I'm very much in the minority on that.

I like the first two points you made. I understand why we have LTC/restructure limits, but I think adding to the limit, even if it is just by adding one more, would be a huge benefit to teams. I've always loved the idea to frontload contracts, I always offer players frontloaded contracts in video games (although it always seems like the total contract cap hit seems to be more, then in a backloaded deal).

As far as the restriction on FA bids, I would go ahead and confirm that you are very much in the minority on that topic. For one, if you give every team unlimited bids on every player, then what advantage would the players current team have over the others? There's always a resigning phase in the real world, before FA starts. So maybe if we added in a resigning phase? However, that just seems boring and would make the leagues less competitive in my opinion.

Just some food for thought on the topics.
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I am fundamentally against adding more LTCs. If anything we need to go back to 1. The FA pool this year was so thin. Leading to massive contracts.
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I think 2 ltcs is good. I'm not sure if that is the reason FA was weak or if it's just players from those expiring contracts are aging or just not developing (haven't looked into it in detail). In real life you don't have a limit on how many players get extended and I'm not saying ltcs should be unlimited because obviously financially it wouldn't make sense.
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Contracts are growing because the cap space has been expanding quickly the last few seasons, and everyone has money to spend. I think 2 LTCs are good and simulates a more realistic free agent market. Most A level players never hit the free agent market.
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The FA pool isn't supposed to be loaded with talent. Real teams retain their players. I understand we want to have fun but taking away an LTC just makes the game easier for the people who draft poorly.

Adding an LTC would give added value towards the draft, isn't that the point of what we do here?
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Bucs99 wrote:The FA pool isn't supposed to be loaded with talent. Real teams retain their players.

Agreed
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