10: Draft Signings

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soonertf wrote:Looks like to me that it is signing the pciks anyway. All the teams that are currently in the red have recently signed 4th rd picks. Am I missing something?
Another part of that is if teams have multiple draft picks in the round it may refer to the saved cap figure used at the start but it doesn't re-calculate it after every signing for every team. So it may put someone a little over if they had more picks when room for one signing but the idea is hopefully not way too much over.

I can make some changes to it to do more involved financial checking to catch some of that, but I really think that goes against what we need to try to do. We can talk about it more or in the off-season rules discussions as nothing would change til next year (actually might be a couple of things to discuss in the coming weeks before they get too far out of mind or forget next year), but I don't think the purpose should primarily be not having a signing put a team over. We need to get the low round signings done automatically no matter what, as otherwise you have 7th round picks holding out and teams getting until the end of the pre-season games to decide whether to keep or not without them ever having been under contract unrealistically.

Ideally in my mind, we should get the 7th thru 2nd rounders signed entirely even if it puts a team over and give them the 48 hours to correct it. And if they don't address it and that's an ongoing problem, then we'd hopefully have a strong wait list to have a new GM pop in to fix it.

First round holdouts are not entirely common either, but at least happen sometimes even into the season so I could live with us having some first round holdouts every now and then, but don't think we should have low round holdouts at all starting next year personally. Once the 7th rounders are signed, all 7th rounders are signed and no holdouts without contract waiting in the wings to see if he'll be signed or not later.
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Second rounders now signed. I'll work on a 1st rounder spreadsheet that will feed in the rookie contracts for first rounders next. Teams will sign their own first rounders by clicking the link next to their name on the team roster when I get that up (maybe tonight or tomorrow). I'll also work to automatically sign the other draftees from lower rounds that weren't signed the first time around for cap space reasons.

2ND ROUNDERS FOR 2010:
2009 = $320,000
2010 = $405,000
2011 = $490,000
2012 = $575,000
Signing Bonus : $1,000,000s low 2nd - $3,500,000s high 2nd

Real 2nd round contracts:

1 (33) Rams Saffold, Rodger
7/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $6.3 million contract. The deal contains $3.9 million guaranteed. Another $250,000 is available through "unlikely to be earned" incentives based on Pro Bowl berths and the 2010 Offensive ROY award. 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent

2 (34) Vikings Cook, Chris
7/29/2010: Signed a four-year, $5.37 million contract. The deal contains $3.3 million guaranteed, including a $2.3 million signing bonus. 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent

3 (35) Buccaneers Price, Brian
7/20/2010: Signed a four-year, $5.35 million contract. The deal contains $3.56 million guaranteed, including a $2.72 million signing bonus. Price is eligible for annual $510,000 roster bonuses in years two through four. Another $990,000 is available through incentives. 2010: $330,000, 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000 (+ $310,000 workout bonus), 2014: Free Agent

10 (42) Patriots Gronkowski, Rob
7/25/10: Signed a four-year, $4.44 million contract. The deal contains $2.59 million guaranteed, including a $1.76 million signing bonus. Another $830,000 is available via a "likely to be earned" onetime incentive based on playing time. 2010: $320,000, 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000 (+ $30,000 workout bonus), 2013: $575,000 (+ $30,000 workout bonus), 2014: Free Agent

13 (45) Broncos Beadles, Zane
7/27/2010: Signed a four-year, $4.171 million contract. The deal contains $2.381 million guaranteed. 2010: $320,000, 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

30 (62) Patriots Spikes, Brandon
7/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.715 million contract. The deal contains $1.41 million guaranteed, including a $960,000 signing bonus. Another $450,000 is available through incentives. 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent

31 (63) Colts Angerer, Pat
7/29/2010: Signed a four-year, $3.14 million contract. The deal contains $1.35 million guaranteed, including a $1.01 million signing bonus. 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent

32 (64) Saints Brown, Charles
7/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.790 million contract. The deal included a $1 million signing bonus. 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent
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My first crack at first rounder salaries are posted in this spreadsheet:

http://www.fangm.com/football/draft10-1signing.xls

I adjusted it a bit from before to put more emphasis on the high guaranteed money we are seeing with the rookie contracts, but most draft slots are not terribly higher overall for first year cap impacts. 12 are less than 100K inflation (some much less or similar to last year). The highest differences are just over 1M difference from last year, and those are probably the ones that are the most under-valued in terms of comparison to the real deals so our slots there grew a bit more in the 4-9 overall range but in most cases less than the real deals for those.

There was more manual adjustment there than last year to try to get things lined up as it seemed they should, so I'll leave that out there for a bit for comments/adjustment before I hook up the first round signings to those assigned rookie deals.

Hopefully next year there is a new agreement with a new rookie salary scale that is more defined and we don't have to adjust ours to media reports as much in the future to keep things real.
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Any idea when we will be able to sign our first rounders?
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Onyxgem wrote:Any idea when we will be able to sign our first rounders?
First rounders can be signed now. There will be a link next to their name on your team roster to sign. If you have multiple first rounders you have to sign the lowest first. If you have lower round picks unsigned, it won't allow signing the first rounder until I get those others automatically signed.

Let me know if the salary figures that come in on your signed pick don't match up to the spreadsheet posted above. thanks
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