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but have to treat a little like a ref picking up the flag or an after further review no penalty kind of thing we'd see in reality.

But in those cases, there was still a play run, so there should be some result. I'm on board with everything you said about penalties being random, but it seems to me like once a penalty is called, it should always have some effect. Maybe a higher ranked team just gets fewer random penalties against it. It doesn't need to a be priority, but I think finding these penalties with no effect is a bug worth tracking down when there is time. Royce's note that they seem to happen at the start of drives is certainly interesting.

In the meantime, I'm blaming the sim replacement refs...

How about offsetting penalties? Maybe that is the reason.

can we make it so late in the 4th quarter and you have the lead and trying to run out the clock you don't go out throwing the football like this? Makes no sense at all to throw the ball 3 times in a row with a 3pt lead in this situation?

2:02 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Incomplete pass.
1:48 | 2 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Carson Palmer (31-for-44 275 yds | 70%:71) passes complete to Michael Bush for 9 yards. TIMEOUT Chicago (2 left)
1:40 | 3 and 1 @ 29 (71)... Chicago defense gets the sack!
0:54 | 4 and 7 @ 35 (65)... Ryan Donahue punts the ball 32 yards Jeremy Kerley returns the ball 0 yards.

Onyxgem wrote:can we make it so late in the 4th quarter and you have the lead and trying to run out the clock you don't go out throwing the football like this? Makes no sense at all to throw the ball 3 times in a row with a 3pt lead in this situation?

2:02 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Incomplete pass.
1:48 | 2 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Carson Palmer (31-for-44 275 yds | 70%:71) passes complete to Michael Bush for 9 yards. TIMEOUT Chicago (2 left)
1:40 | 3 and 1 @ 29 (71)... Chicago defense gets the sack!
0:54 | 4 and 7 @ 35 (65)... Ryan Donahue punts the ball 32 yards Jeremy Kerley returns the ball 0 yards.

Actually the bears still had their timeouts so you needed to get a first down to end the game and you are a better throwing team than running. Although I would say on 3rd and 1 most teams would run. Still there are teams that would do play action.

Strategist wrote:

Onyxgem wrote:can we make it so late in the 4th quarter and you have the lead and trying to run out the clock you don't go out throwing the football like this? Makes no sense at all to throw the ball 3 times in a row with a 3pt lead in this situation?

2:02 | 1 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Incomplete pass.
1:48 | 2 and 10 @ 38 (62)... Carson Palmer (31-for-44 275 yds | 70%:71) passes complete to Michael Bush for 9 yards. TIMEOUT Chicago (2 left)
1:40 | 3 and 1 @ 29 (71)... Chicago defense gets the sack!
0:54 | 4 and 7 @ 35 (65)... Ryan Donahue punts the ball 32 yards Jeremy Kerley returns the ball 0 yards.

Actually the bears still had their timeouts so you needed to get a first down to end the game and you are a better throwing team than running. Although I would say on 3rd and 1 most teams would run. Still there are teams that would do play action.

Yeah but incomplete passes don't make them use their time outs at all and running the ball would do that.

I agree that they don't. What I was saying is that it isnt unrealistic for a passing team to throw at the end in a close game.

I've seen the Eagles and Andy Reid do it enough to know that Strategist is right